PACIFICTIMES (Pacific Times Magazine): Aloha
NORBERT PEREZ: Hello Shelly.
PACIFICTIMES: Thank you for taking
time to do this interview.
NORBERT PEREZ: I’m delighted to
PACIFICTIMES: Our many readers will appreciate
your thoughts on the Name-Change issue.
NORBERT PEREZ: I’m sure they
will. I’m glad to clear up some questions.
PACIFICTIMES: Do you approve of changing
our island’s name from GUAM
NORBERT PEREZ: I whole-heartedly
approve. It’s been a long time coming.
PACIFICTIMES: Some folks say that you
forced Governor Camacho to sign his Executive Order. Is that correct?
NORBERT PEREZ: NO. That
isn’t true. I advised him & I encouraged him. I can’t twist his arm from thousands of miles away, can I?
PACIFICTIMES: So you played no role in
getting him to sign that Executive Order?
NORBERT PEREZ: Absolutely
PACIFICTIMES: Some are insinuating that
you forced his hand through mental telepathy. Did you?
NORBERT PEREZ: Absolutely
NOT. I advised him and I encouraged him to sign the Order so he can cement his
PACIFICTIMES: I see. Is this Name-Change important for our people?
NORBERT PEREZ: For sure it is. It
is the single most important change for our island in the last 100 years. It
is an historical event.
PACIFICTIMES: You have read through the
PDN and KUAM blogs against this name-change. Most are concerned about the added costs. What do you say?
NORBERT PEREZ: The cost to change our island’s name from GUAM
to GUAHAN is so miniscule. People are simply looking at the short term outlay, which I believe will be $zero because Uncle
Sam will pay for it all. I think people are just afraid of being inconvenienced,
which is a small sweat as compared to the positive and long-term possibilities.
PACIFICTIMES: There is the opposite side
which countered by saying we should just leave it alone. Can you comment on that?
NORBERT PEREZ: We can’t just leave
it alone. The Governor has already signed the Executive Order and he has already prompted use in Washington D.C. It
is already LAW.
PACIFICTIMES: Can he rescind it?
NORBERT PEREZ: Sure he can, but
PACIFICTIMES: Why not?
NORBERT PEREZ: The Governor will not rescind
his Order. He is a vain man and he does care about his legacy. He wants to be
the man who changed our island’s name from GUAM back to GUAHAN.
PACIFICTIMES: What about the Legislature? Can they reverse the Governor’s Order?
NORBERT PEREZ: They probably can but they
would be committing political suicide. The Governor isn’t worried because he isn’t up for re-election.
PACIFICTIMES: Was the Governor correct in making this change?
NORBERT PEREZ: Absolutely and I warmly
applaud him for his courage. I told him that I will stand behind him to the end and we will celebrate victory.
PACIFICTIMES: You know you are making
a huge splash around the island. I don’t mean you but members of our team. First it was Larry and Roman. Then we have
Pamela and Regina making the rounds at the village meetings
and funerals. Carlos and Pito are being cussed out in Umatac. Aileen, Lolita, Tami and Krista will soon move up in notoriety. You
are aware of that, aren’t you?
NORBERT PEREZ: Of course I am. If you
noticed, I recently admonished Roke Terlaje for getting too emotional with the bloggers. Since Pammie took over, we have been
most successful. She is a natural at it. Our main objective with using these
blogs is to disseminate our Information. It is called a filtered transfer. The
bloggers are the active grapevine. They monitor the island’s heartbeat and they disburse our message throughout the
PACIFICTIMES: Some of the bloggers become
hateful and so sarcastic. They call you crazy. They call us a Cult. Why do you allow them?
NORBERT PEREZ: Do I care if they call me crazy? Certainly not. Do I care if they call us weirdos? It doesn’t bother me. But I know that it can and will bother some
of our people. Good example was Roke. We cannot afford a breakdown, from our end. This is why I want everyone trained to be
professional and passive. So far everything is fantastic and moving along in harmony.
PACIFICTIMES: I have read some of the
remarks from these bloggers and some of them are downright MEAN. I asked Pammie
how she can take all those abuses?
NORBERT PEREZ: She is a headstrong woman, isn’t she? Well she can dish it out
with the best of them. I love her style. She is great.
PACIFICTIMES: Pammie told me that she
is very successful. When people are talking about her and quoting her on these
blogs, she is SUCCEEDING.
NORBERT PEREZ: She is right-On.
PACIFICTIMES: But, don’t they hate
NORBERT PEREZ: Not really. Imagine this.
If she breaks off and doesn’t blog for a week or two, these addicts will be wondering and missing her.
PACIFICTIMES: Let’s get back to
the main issue.
NORBERT PEREZ: Okay, Shelly.
PACIFICTIMES: Tell us what we are doing by protesting?
NORBERT PEREZ: What we are doing
by protesting is highlighting the ETHNIC CLEANSING going on in our island which started out in 1898.
PACIFICTIMES: Some bloggers have stated that there is no ETHNIC CLEANSING on our island
and the United Nations has a clear definition of what is Ethnic Cleansing. What say you to that?
NORBERT PEREZ: That is typical horseradish. The definition of Ethnic Cleansing by the
United Nations applies to what happened in Kosovo and others. That definition is so broad and generalized that it will cover
our ETHNIC CLEANSING charge here.
PACIFICTIMES: Are we filing a complaint with the United Nations?
PEREZ: NOT yet. We will if things
don’t begin to roll.
PACIFICTIMES: What do you mean?
PEREZ: I want this Name-Change to
be an internal matter. The last thing I want to do is to protest and advertise this issue to the world. I want the people
of Guahan to support this name change. I want the Legislature to pass it and send the measure to Congress. Then I want Congress
to amend the Organic Act to reflect our island as GUAHAN and our people as CHAMORI.
PACIFICTIMES: What do you mean by Internal?
PEREZ: I do not believe America wants to be known as an Ethnic Cleansing
Nation. That will provide substantive fodder for all the JIHADIST Kooks around the world. Nations who do not like America will exploit this issue to embarrass America.
PACIFICTIMES: If you don’t want that, why protest?
PEREZ: Simple….We want this
name change done and we will force everyone to make those changes. The local people who are fighting us are doing so for all
the wrong reasons.
PACIFICTIMES: What are those reasons?
PEREZ: Some are just concerned about
politics. Some just don’t want Felix Camacho to enjoy this legacy. Some are afraid of a United Chamori people. Some
are consumed with hatred for me. There are many, many excuses and all of them
STUPID and ignore the big picture.
PACIFICTIMES: How far do you expect this to go?
PEREZ: As far as it takes.
PACIFICTIMES: How about the cost?
PEREZ: Like I stated. If we do this right, it will cost us NOTHING. This is a
federal matter and correcting it will be a congressional responsibility. That includes the costs.
PACIFICTIMES: Will making this name-change affect our island and
PEREZ: Most definitely. Every issue, every problem on our island is directly related
to this name-change and our lack of identity. Some may not believe that but it is so true.
PACIFICTIMES: Isn't publishing our web site and visiting the blogs....are we already protesting?
PEREZ: Absolutely. This is why it didn't hurt us when the President delayed his
visit to Guahan. It HELPED us.
PACIFICTIMES: Do you think the Presdient and the White House already
know about our Protest?
PEREZ: Of course they do. Many in Congress know as well.
PACIFICTIMES: Some emails have filtered in saying that Pammie is destroying our credibility and hurting our cause.
Do you believe that?
PEREZ: Certainly Not. I applaud everyone
and everything we do. Many are appalled by our directness and passion. Most will probably hate us by the time this is over
and I welcome that. We are not running a popularity contest. We are not candidates for office. We are exerting our wills to
change our island's landscape. And believe me, it is already happening.
PACIFICTIMES: That is what Lawrence said the other
day. “Read between the Lines”.
PEREZ: For sure. Read between the Lines or Read the writings on the wall. Why
do you suppose we are so popular (negative or positive) The people are reading our messages and they are resonating.
PACIFICTIMES: Please explain.
PEREZ: Just imagine the people in
Umatac. It is beyond my wildest dreams how they could condone and embrace their
Discovery Day Activities. It is so offensive and demeaning to our people. Just
the history of Magellan and the Spanish and the atrocities they committed on our people is disgusting. Yet they celebrate
the raping of our women; they celebrate the murder of our ancestors in the name of God. This is truly despicable.
PACIFICTIMES: But didn't you tell Carlos Rojas to offer them alternative themes to replace their Discovery Day
NORBERT PEREZ: Of course. It is on the
table and they are welcomed to use them. We would be happy and honored to work with them.
PACIFICTIMES: That is a fair gesture. How about the War Reparations. Aren't you against
NORBERT PEREZ: I most certainly am.
NORBERT PEREZ: From a realistic perspective,
the War Claims will never fly. It is a dead issue.
NORBERT PEREZ: The biggest problem with the War Reparations is the Message and the
Messengers. Do you honestly believe that folks in Washington and Japan are taking us seriously about the War Claims? Do they take us seriously when
we abandon our own principles and embrace the Discovery Day celebrations? What is next? The people of Malesso' celebrating
the TINTA Massacres? We are a sick people and it boils down to Ethnic Cleansing and the Lost of our Identity.
PACIFICTIMES: That makes sense.
NORBERT PEREZ: Of course it does. What truly pains me is how our politicians have exploited
our manamkos, using them year after year to perpetuate their own selfish agendas. The way they force our people to re-live
their intimate nightmares. This is plainly a form of Mental Abuse.
PACIFICTIMES: It sure is, huh? But how could they know which Congress will consent
to paying our people?
NORBERT PEREZ: Come on, Shelly. The War
Reparations Bill started with Delegate Won Pat in the 1960s. Delegate Ben Blaz and Delegate Robert Underwood spent years trying
to move it along without success. Now it is Delegate Bordallo's turn at-bat.
PACIFICTIMES: I see what you your saying.
Is there a chance at all?
PEREZ: I wish there
was but somehow the outlook is bleak. America
is in the midst of an economic depression which means our CASH COW is leaner
PACIFICTIMES: You were
quoted as saying that you will cancel our protest if the Legislature affirms the Governor's Executive Order. Is this correct?
NORBERT PEREZ: Of course,
I will do it in a heartbeat.
PACIFICTIMES: Why is that?
NORBERT PEREZ: I will do it and
allow the process of change to occur internally. The Legislature will affirm the Governor's Executive Order, send the measure
to Congress so they can amend the Organic Act. This is the Internal flow of things. This is the normal route.
PACIFICTIMES: Do you believe the Legislature will give a thumbs up?
NORBERT PEREZ: I am not sure. I hope they would but I'm not sure. The politics on the
Island is so crazy. They do things for all the wrong reasons. They've been doing it since
PACIFICTIMES: How is Pamela doing with that “ma'agoddai” web site?
NORBERT PEREZ: Oh, she coming along just fine. This girl is so excited and so passionate
about our cause and our sacred mission.
PACIFICTIMES: Really? How do you mean?
NORBERT PEREZ: Well the other day, she called me to tell me that she received several
calls from people on Guahan and Saipan to offer ideas about the “Ma'agoddai”
or “mana'fugu” experiences.
PACIFICTIMES: What kind of experiences?
NORBERT PEREZ: Many people on island call themselves Chamorus, Chamorros or Guamanians either by
schooling or social network. They have never experienced the “ma'agoddai” experience and how it is a personal
connection with our ancestors.
PACIFICTIMES: Please explain?
NORBERT PEREZ: Think about it. We have an identity crisis. Our people our confused.
This “ma'agoddai” or “mana'fugu” experience takes it to a whole new level. This is not Norbert Perez
or Pamela Sanchez telling them who they are. This is our ancestors reaching out to them.
PACIFICTIMES: But most people are afraid of the Taotaomo'nas.
NORBERT PEREZ: I don't see
why they should. Are you afraid of your grandmother or your grandfather?
PACIFICTIMES: This is so wonderful, Mr. Perez. Thank you for sharing with us.
NORBERT PEREZ: Thank you Shelly.
PACIFICTIMES: One final question. Are you gonna run for Mayor of Maui County?
NORBERT PEREZ: Heck NO. Graciela will not allow me to become a candidate.
PACIFICTIMES: I see. Regina told me the same thing.
NORBERT PEREZ: Thank you Shelly and Si
PACIFICTIMES: Thank you, sir. Thank you so much.